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PostSubject: Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line   Tue 16 Feb 2016, 11:38 am

That brings it into scale. Nice work!
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PostSubject: Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line   Tue 16 Feb 2016, 6:12 pm

Hi all here is tonights update .












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PostSubject: Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line   Tue 16 Feb 2016, 9:04 pm

That Wood looks great.
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PostSubject: Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line   Wed 17 Feb 2016, 2:21 pm

The wood hughs are very realistic.
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PostSubject: Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line   Wed 17 Feb 2016, 7:54 pm

Hi all, I was asked by a few people how I did this wood effect so thought maybe some of you would be interested.
First of all I apologise my the first pics of the procedure are missing as the pics on my phone we're corrupted for some reason, it dosn't really matter  as the process it the same throughout I will explain as we go.
First here is the huge list of things required

this is where my phone let me down I have no pics if this part as they were corrupted(sorry)
the pastels wont stick to plastic so you have to use matt paint (I've no idea if this will work with acrylics as I use enamels but I think it would)
I picked the lightest colour of the wood I'm trying to replicate for the base colour (in this case Humbrol m 63)
paint the wood with a thin coat in the direction of the grain if it looks patchy that is good (helps with the effect)as long as it all has some paint on it (look at the pictures of the hull you can see its very patchy)
once that is dry take the darkest wood colour pastel you are using and lightly drag it over the grain in a random manner not everywhere so it all looks the same , then with the brush, again in the direction of the grain brush it in




then with the highlight colour (we have pictures of the rest of the process from now on) do exactly the same



again brush in the direction of the grain





next get some black pastel and dab on details (anywhere that may get stained from water or nooks an crannys where swilling the deck wouldn't get plus a few random areas



now brush across the gain (only very lightly and only a couple of passes)





now brush with the grain as much as you like till you get the desired effect





now comes the important bit (DO NOT VARNISH THIS YET) the varnish stays wet too long and the pastels merge and you just end up with brown blotches. spray with your missus hair spray at a distance of at least 12 inches ( you don't want it to look wet when that is dry then you can spray your varnish.









Just to show the versitility of this here is some wood from my Mefistofeles which I wanted a mahogany effect (its 1/12 so the wood grain effect is much couser)

red base coat



first pastel colour




the genius of this method is if you make a mistake or don't like the effect (untill you varnish it) wash it under the tap dry with a cloth and your missus hair dryer, ten mins and you're ready to go again, you tell me any other method that's that easy to redo.
Hope this is of some help to some one
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PostSubject: Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line   Thu 18 Feb 2016, 12:08 am

I gotta say it looks amazing!!!   Question: when you put on the first coat (Humbrol enamel), do you wait for it to dry completely, overnight or days?  Or is a shorter time like a couple hours enough? 
Thanx for showing us how to do wood, since it comes in handy in dioramas as well.
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PostSubject: Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line   Thu 18 Feb 2016, 3:05 pm

Excellent How To! That helps allot. Thanks.
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PostSubject: Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line   Thu 18 Feb 2016, 3:43 pm

Hi thanks for the comments, I let the humbrol dry overnight but I suppose once it's touch dry (couple of hrs?) it should be OK as long as it's not wet anywhere I could see that turning into a right old mess.
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PostSubject: Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line   Thu 18 Feb 2016, 5:24 pm

Always nice to learn new tricks. Thanks for the tips. Looking great.
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PostSubject: Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line   Sat 20 Feb 2016, 5:06 pm

Hi all here is the next update
some of the many, many cannons, think I will see them in my dreams








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PostSubject: Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line   Sat 20 Feb 2016, 6:29 pm

Super job. I am really enjoying this build.
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PostSubject: Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line   Sun 21 Feb 2016, 6:00 pm

Hi all these 2 ships are pretty much the same scale (I think it just goes to show how big this ship was)(although the Victory would dwarf the Soliel)


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PostSubject: Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line   Sun 21 Feb 2016, 8:18 pm

Huge models. I wouldn't have the space to display them. LOL I do like what you do and enjoy watching you do it.
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PostSubject: Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line   Mon 22 Feb 2016, 2:16 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line   Mon 22 Feb 2016, 6:37 pm

Simply lovely work, both with the elegant coloring and then the dramatic wood weathering.  That is a most remarkable creation.
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PostSubject: Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line   Tue 23 Feb 2016, 1:39 am

Man that looks awesome! I have the Heller HMS Victory 1/00. I bought it to be my retirement build, but this OTB makes me want to build now!
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PostSubject: Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line   Tue 23 Feb 2016, 7:56 pm

Hi all here is the next update, 12 of the lower deck cannons, not done much detail work on the carriages as they wont be seen, and done some of the deck furniture, next job to drill the holes out for the gun door ropes( that is going to take some time 104 guns X 2 208 holes then I have to try and think of a way to make the rings for the gun port doors for the ropes to go through.
Heller's Victory is supposed to be the most accurate plastic model ship made, you should check out foxy's build over on britmodeller he is using the Dafi etching set for it, it truly is stunning (I think its been 2 yrs so far and he's just started the rigging) if you have it in your stash and intend to build it I highly recommend you check it out, I wish I could build to his standard.








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PostSubject: Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line   Wed 24 Feb 2016, 6:42 pm

Wow those cannons look great. The aged wood rocks also. popcorn popcorn popcorn
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PostSubject: Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line   Fri 26 Feb 2016, 8:58 pm

Hi all here is the next update, I needed to drill the holes for the gun port doors ropes, but I wanted them all in the same place so I made a jig.










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PostSubject: Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line   Sat 27 Feb 2016, 4:07 pm

Hi all here is todays bit.




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PostSubject: Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line   Mon 29 Feb 2016, 1:43 pm

Man! Allot of work!
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PostSubject: Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line   Mon 29 Feb 2016, 6:24 pm

Are the ropes hanging out of the hull there to hold the cannons in place? I know they did that on real sailing ships because of the recoil. Looks great.
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PostSubject: Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line   Tue 01 Mar 2016, 4:03 pm

The ropes are for the gunport doors, they used to have one big burley sailor give the.door a good shove while four or more others would pull for all they were worth on the ropes to.open the door.
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PostSubject: Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line   Tue 01 Mar 2016, 6:36 pm

Got Ya. Thanks for the quick reply.
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PostSubject: Re: Heller 1/100 17th Century ship of the line   Tue 01 Mar 2016, 7:27 pm

Lovely work, I'm always impressed by these ship builds. But the rigging scares me to death. Suppose I could do a canoe LOL. Enjoying this KP. popcorn
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