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PostSubject: Re: Fiat SB4 Eldridge (Mefistofele)   Wed 18 Nov 2015, 6:40 am

One question: who is Uncle Henry? Oh, and it coming along very nicely,Al.
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PostSubject: Re: Fiat SB4 Eldridge (Mefistofele)   Wed 18 Nov 2015, 6:48 am

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One question: who is Uncle Henry? Oh, and it coming along very nicely,Al.

Henry Ford said "you can have any color you want as long as it's black " in reference to his Model T.
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PostSubject: Re: Fiat SB4 Eldridge (Mefistofele)   Wed 18 Nov 2015, 10:40 am

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WOW, that looks amazing Al. I have a old woody hot rod that I am wanting to use wood on instead of  paint or decals...Really nice work!!!

Ron

Ron.... you will need much thinner wood. Talk to JohnJ, he sent me some great veneer a while ago, perfect for such a job. I'm sure he will be able to tell you where to buy it.

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One question: who is Uncle Henry? Oh, and it coming along very nicely,Al.

Henry Ford said "you can have any color you want as long as it's black " in reference to his  Model  T.

That's the popular misconception Sam but he never actually 'said' it. It comes from a passage he wrote in his autobiography, 'My life And Work' in which he wrote "Any customer can have a car painted any colour that he wants so long as it is black".

Thanks for the comments guys. Much appreciated.

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PostSubject: Re: Fiat SB4 Eldridge (Mefistofele)   Wed 18 Nov 2015, 3:37 pm

Coming along brilliantly Al, If you've no room for it, Ill store it for free.
Ron, there are some superb wood effect decal sheets available for your 'woody'
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PostSubject: Re: Fiat SB4 Eldridge (Mefistofele)   Wed 18 Nov 2015, 8:41 pm

coming along quite quickly there, do you find the time to make such marvelous creations?
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PostSubject: Re: Fiat SB4 Eldridge (Mefistofele)   Thu 19 Nov 2015, 6:40 pm

Thanks both.

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coming along quite quickly there, do you find the time to make such marvelous creations?

Being retired helps a lot Ash!! LOL

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PostSubject: Re: Fiat SB4 Eldridge (Mefistofele)   Sat 21 Nov 2015, 12:18 am

Got the paint and gloss coats laid over the last couple of days so just had to do a bit of a mock up!! LOL.







Looking at it now, I think it is too glossy and needs to be dulled down some.

It almost dwarfs the 1:12 Brabham BT44!!





Italeri gave the dash individual instruments which is a nice touch when it comes to painting........ HOWEVER...... the same cannot be said about the instrument panel:



There are several injection pin marks including two large ones that the tachometer does not completely cover!! The aluminium plating is inconsistent to say the least, is too shiny and it appears they made a poor attempt at circle polishing, which the real car does not have.

In addition, the three buttons on the lower right, should be four flick switches..... go figure!!!

The modified dash, ready for instruments and switches:



The hole indicated by the yellow arrow is to have part 135f inserted. A rotary switch similar to this one:



Accept it's not on the F sprue but on an entirely different sprue!!! LOL.

Looks like this poor soul missed it completely:


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PostSubject: Re: Fiat SB4 Eldridge (Mefistofele)   Sat 21 Nov 2015, 7:29 am

Wowsers, for the price of these it should be accurate but on the plus side, it gives you something to do :)
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PostSubject: Re: Fiat SB4 Eldridge (Mefistofele)   Sat 21 Nov 2015, 10:42 am

Hi Al,

This is coming along really, really nicely Sir, you'll have to catch a Squirrel now and have him as your driver...

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PostSubject: Re: Fiat SB4 Eldridge (Mefistofele)   Sat 21 Nov 2015, 11:24 am


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PostSubject: Re: Fiat SB4 Eldridge (Mefistofele)   Sat 21 Nov 2015, 7:23 pm

Looking super.
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PostSubject: Re: Fiat SB4 Eldridge (Mefistofele)   Sun 22 Nov 2015, 12:55 am

Looking good, Al. Great work redoing the instrument panel.
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PostSubject: Re: Fiat SB4 Eldridge (Mefistofele)   Sun 22 Nov 2015, 4:24 am

Super build Al, I am enjoying this one.


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PostSubject: Re: Fiat SB4 Eldridge (Mefistofele)   Mon 23 Nov 2015, 12:44 am

A beautiful job on a fine model.  Am envious, but will follow this one closely.
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PostSubject: Re: Fiat SB4 Eldridge (Mefistofele)   Mon 23 Nov 2015, 5:11 pm

Thanks all.

Last instrument to go in and I hit a setback. Got it sprayed up and decided to help the drying along with a hair dryer. My modelling one gave up the ghost a few days ago, so I've sneakily been using SWYMBO's. Must be a lot hotter than my cheapie as it warped the instrument in short order. Oh well, just have to make a new one!!




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PostSubject: Re: Fiat SB4 Eldridge (Mefistofele)   Mon 23 Nov 2015, 11:17 pm

I'm going to have to strip the paint on the body and bonnet pieces. The paint and clear laid down well but after a couple of days, this started to happen......



..... and it's getting worse each day!!!

On the upside, I have finished the dashboard:





I didn't have any suitable styrene to make a replacement gauge from, so I hunted around in the spares stash and still came up with nothing.

Then I checked my after market bits, and came up with a 1:25 turned alluminium breather cap, which, with the decal on and given a two part epoxy 'lens', I think makes a pretty passable surface mounted 'binnacle' gauge.

Italeri supply individual gauge lenses, which is nice but they don't show that well in the photos. Far right instrument is the best view.

As mentioned before, I removed the moulded in 'buttons' and replaced them with 'flick' switches. Once again these are from the after market bits box and are in fact 1:25 inline electrical connectors. Not perfect but much better than the moulded in buttons methinks.




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PostSubject: Re: Fiat SB4 Eldridge (Mefistofele)   Tue 24 Nov 2015, 1:17 pm

I sure am sorry to see the paint reaction. Any thoughts on what caused it?  Everything else looks fine!
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PostSubject: Re: Fiat SB4 Eldridge (Mefistofele)   Tue 24 Nov 2015, 2:27 pm

Did you use the hairdryer to help the paint along on the body work, if so then that's possibly the problem ... heat alters some paints molecular structure (some shrink within their "bond" and some expand) when the paint "levels out" (i.e. goes back to it's original molecular structure) it will either ripple (if heating shrunk the "bond") or crack (if heating expanded the "bond")
Popping the clear over the top could have exasperated the problem and it could take weeks to fully level out

Seen it happen once in a while with 1:1 in a drying room ... vastly experienced sprayers have suffered it at one time or another, you never know when it'll occur because it's all random factors coming together ....  it probably accounts for all the time when people say "i did everything exactly the same and "this/that" happened even without a heat source, look what happens when we spray on a cold, damp day when compared to a warm,dry one!!


i was told by a guy who'd been spraying since Noah build his ark

"A" particular paint /mix, on "A" particular medium, with "A" particular temp at "A" particular humidity can cause it ...

...a little less / more heat and it'd be fine .....  a little less / more humidity and it'd be fine ..... a different paint mix by a minute % and it'd be fine ... just one of dem fings
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PostSubject: Re: Fiat SB4 Eldridge (Mefistofele)   Tue 24 Nov 2015, 3:22 pm

No hairdryer involved at all Colin.

It's stripping now ready to start over.

In the meantime, how about these:

Crank and piston/conrod from the real deal................





Each piston displaces 3.6 litres!!!!


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PostSubject: Re: Fiat SB4 Eldridge (Mefistofele)   Tue 24 Nov 2015, 6:04 pm

Stripped and sanded and the ripples are still there:







I have emailed Italeri to ask about replacements.

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PostSubject: Re: Fiat SB4 Eldridge (Mefistofele)   Tue 24 Nov 2015, 6:22 pm

polymer reaction then eh.
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PostSubject: Re: Fiat SB4 Eldridge (Mefistofele)   Tue 24 Nov 2015, 7:46 pm

Maybe the Fiat had a leather covered body like the Blower Bentley had a cloth body....
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PostSubject: Re: Fiat SB4 Eldridge (Mefistofele)   Tue 24 Nov 2015, 9:34 pm

These things are sent to try us AL.
Hope they can sort you out with new parts.
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PostSubject: Re: Fiat SB4 Eldridge (Mefistofele)   Wed 25 Nov 2015, 1:29 am

I didn't notice you speaking off priming the panels. Did the color go directly on the plastic?
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PostSubject: Re: Fiat SB4 Eldridge (Mefistofele)   Wed 25 Nov 2015, 4:16 am

No Mike. I always prime, colour coat then gloss coat.

I used a rattle can this time so maybe I just got too much on??

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