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PostSubject: Salvage pile   Wed 13 May 2015, 4:08 pm

Well, time to scare up another project.
Dragging out some parts. Have no idea where these parts will lead, but, I'll probably come up with something.



One thing I have decided upon was to fit this big blower to a  flathead intake manifold. This blower body is as long as the flathead block. It'd probably blow that old cast iron to hell and back.
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PostSubject: Re: Salvage pile   Wed 13 May 2015, 4:32 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Salvage pile   Wed 13 May 2015, 5:52 pm

Do it Clay, Blow that baby up.
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PostSubject: Re: Salvage pile   Wed 13 May 2015, 8:37 pm

It's going yo be fun to watch.

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PostSubject: Re: Salvage pile   Wed 13 May 2015, 9:29 pm

Yes, fun indeed!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Salvage pile   Wed 13 May 2015, 11:05 pm

Yep, actual blowers back then were smaller.  Dunno if they were called 4 or 6-71(?)  the 4 was shorter, I'm guessing to fit with the rear distributor on many engines.  Flatheads, of course, had theirs front mounted.  I think it I were doing it, to make it fit easier and avoid drive belt probs, I'd shorten the blower.  That's my Imagineering solution.  It also would look more in proportion to the engine rather than dwarfing it. 
    That'll be one "hairy canary" in any event!
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PostSubject: Re: Salvage pile   Thu 14 May 2015, 4:38 am

The 3-71 , 4-71, 6-71 blowers were named for the number of cylinders in the GMC diesel engine they came off of. The -71 kinda stuck. The modern Fuel cars run a 24-71 blower. At least that's the way the story was told to me.
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PostSubject: Re: Salvage pile   Thu 14 May 2015, 1:24 pm

Most of the Old Flat Heads ran 4-71s back in the day.
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PostSubject: Re: Salvage pile   Thu 14 May 2015, 4:04 pm

OK, The block and major intake  parts have been sprayed and gassing out. The block is DupliColor Chev orange. But that is neither here or there for now.
I was in rummaging in my "stuff" and came across this front wheel drive chassis, (partially built). and had been wondering what to do with it. Further rummaging got me to this cool 57 Plymouth body.
My favorite classic Mopar body !

Seeing the two together and what was there with them, put me to mind of something I had been wanting to do for quite a while. So, now I was sufficiently distracted to change course. I'm glad I didn't assign a specific title to this thread, so, hang on !
I'm not really happy about messing with this pristine body, but there's nothing else to go with it.

This cool engine, that I think I have identified as Ferrari, is so well glued together, that I don't have the stones to attempt to dis-assemble it. One of the intake banks is missing and I'll probably havr to cobble up something different.



The rear end has to be relocated. Reckless eyeballing looks like I'll have to add about 1/2 inch to the floor pan.


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PostSubject: Re: Salvage pile   Thu 14 May 2015, 5:17 pm

LOVE IT !!
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PostSubject: Re: Salvage pile   Thu 14 May 2015, 5:39 pm

Wow!!! Just WOW!!!! Can't wait to see where this all goes.
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PostSubject: Re: Salvage pile   Thu 14 May 2015, 5:54 pm

Sure looks like a Ferrari v12 Clay. A Plymo with a Ferrari engine. Cool.

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PostSubject: Re: Salvage pile   Thu 14 May 2015, 6:44 pm

Looks quite similar to a ferarri 12 but then they're all pretty similar across the supercar range eh,

am i reading it right that its a front wheel drive chassis???, dont think there was one (production Ferarri that is), could be wrong ... i'm not into expensive, unreliable fiats lol

Anyway i'm sitting comfortably waiting for the magic to begin .... that is a really nice body shape
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PostSubject: Re: Salvage pile   Thu 14 May 2015, 10:21 pm

Certainly not in a genre I have any knowledge at all in, Snake.
There's nothing behind the block and there's no tranny hump on the floorboards.
Extremely small lettering on the one air box. I used my optivisors and Shazza's magnifying glass together. The inner script box on the upper front end says Ferrari. And i'm pretty sure the lower one at tha bottom rear says Testerossa.

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PostSubject: Re: Salvage pile   Thu 14 May 2015, 10:44 pm

Well the testerossa was a mid engine rear wheel drive, a bit of tinterweb research shows cars with one mounted under the bonnet (hood) so I think its full steam ahead with your new project sir.
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PostSubject: Re: Salvage pile   Thu 14 May 2015, 10:55 pm

Clay, to the best of my knowledge, Ferrari has never produced a FWD car. Nor have they ever produced a rear engined car.

I think what you have there is a V12 FWD car without any gearbox. Maybe even a 250 GTO. Certainly sometime in the sixties I would think.

So lengthening the chassis would certainly be kosher!

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PostSubject: Re: Salvage pile   Fri 15 May 2015, 12:13 am

I think I have rounded up some valve covers that I can bash that are similar to that air box (cleaner).
That'll take care of the Ferrari script !
As for Kosher, I don't do kosher. Especially pickles, I don't eat pickles !!
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PostSubject: Re: Salvage pile   Fri 15 May 2015, 5:00 am

That's a massive engine! I can't wait to see how it will look in the bay.
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PostSubject: Re: Salvage pile   Fri 15 May 2015, 2:15 pm

Hi Mr G,

I'm in... popcorn

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PostSubject: Re: Salvage pile   Fri 15 May 2015, 2:27 pm

It's a mid engined Ferrari, you're turning the chassis around to make it front engined, the exhaust is the clue.

Nice imagineering!
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PostSubject: Re: Salvage pile   Fri 15 May 2015, 5:29 pm

Your'e right Shay, I hadn't noticed the exhausts.

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PostSubject: Re: Salvage pile   Fri 15 May 2015, 5:39 pm

Clay, quite a few of the European manufactures do things different. The Transmission and differential are in the engine oil pan. So they all share a common sump and oil. SAAB, Ferrari come to mind real quick. Also some of the British cars do the same thing. I think you may have a power train from one of these types of cars.
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PostSubject: Re: Salvage pile   Fri 15 May 2015, 5:46 pm

I'm pretty sure it's a Testarossa, the gearbox is actually mounted below the engine as per the earlier 512 BB, you can see the driveshafts in the pics.

I remember Autocar giving out that the engine's centre of gravity was too high up in the car because of it back in the day.

Mind you, I drove a Testarossa on a track day and it was really nice to drive.
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PostSubject: Re: Salvage pile   Sat 16 May 2015, 11:15 am

A couple of peeks in Google and it, indeed, appears that I have this bassackwards. But, that is well in the parameters of my modeling misadventures, for I have been known to even defy the laws of physics on occasion.
Being as I have insufficient necessary parts to build a whole normal looking '57, I am proceeding with my original plan which is taking me into a new genre of model building. I am looking at a post apoplectic 'Mad Max' type of vehicle.
How cool would it have been to do a nice rendition of a mid engine'd Ferrari powered 57 Plymouth ??

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PostSubject: Re: Salvage pile   Sat 16 May 2015, 2:59 pm

Geezerman wrote:
taking me into a new genre of model building. I am looking at a post apoplectic 'Mad Max' type of vehicle.

I loved doing this genre, i did a Mad Max type of an Enzo a while back (best thing for a Ferrari lol)


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How cool would it have been  to do a nice rendition of a mid engine'd Ferrari powered 57 Plymouth ??

I think with your skills it's completely possible to make up the neccessary parts and go for it, it doesn't have to be absolutely perfect, although seeing what you do it wouldn't be far off Clay
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