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PostSubject: Re: Streicher Hawk Midget Brass Build   Wed 31 Dec 2014, 1:12 am

Nice work Art !

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PostSubject: Re: Streicher Hawk Midget Brass Build   Wed 31 Dec 2014, 4:41 am

Thanks for the comment, Snake!

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Very Nice Work. I notice that you have added quite a few bars to the chassis that aren't on te die cast chassis. Are those there because they are on your brothers car? I am a drag racer and have built more than one tube chassis and know about them adding bars years after a frame is done and certified. Just curious. Top notch workmanship.

Thanks, Zbuckster! That's exactly right. I am trying to replicate the reference pictures as much as possible and the real car has a lot more detail in the chassis than the die cast has.
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PostSubject: Re: Streicher Hawk Midget Brass Build   Wed 31 Dec 2014, 4:43 am

pete s wrote:
Art, this chassis looks absolutely wonderful. The small detail work is stunning.

Your frame building techniques are nearly identical to what I use. The start with a scaled drawing makes the building real straightforward, and accurate! Seeing your wonderful work just reinforces why I love working in brass so much!

What type of soldering do you use, a soldering pencil or a resistance soldering setup?

I will be watching this one carefully!!!

Thanks, Pete! Yes, I am using a pencil style Weller, nothing special. I'm really enjoying it!
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PostSubject: Re: Streicher Hawk Midget Brass Build   Wed 31 Dec 2014, 5:08 am

JohnJ wrote:
Hard to believe this is your first try at brass.  You obviously have a real talent for it.  Looking forward to seeing the finished product.  

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Skid wrote:
So is the radio Shack flux a paste or a liquid Art?

BTW, most here call me Al.

Al, the stuff I am using is a paste. From the references I have been using, guys seem to like the liquid, but this has been working out well for me so far.

Geezerman wrote:
NICE WORK !!!!!!

Thanks, Geeezerman!

harron68 wrote:
ACE craftsmanship!  Don't say the brass tubing work isn't a skill.  From bends to solder to making a jig to maintain even stance, it's a real skill.  We did a few slot car tube frames in the '60s and it wasn't half as neat as your work.  Thanx for the fotos and references to outside suppliers!

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Nice work Art !


Thanks a lot, guys, for you kind comments. Hopefully I can get some more done this weekend while I have some holiday and vacation time.
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PostSubject: Re: Streicher Hawk Midget Brass Build   Wed 31 Dec 2014, 9:11 am

Al, the stuff I am using is a paste. From the references I have been using, guys seem to like the liquid, but this has been working out well for me so far. wrote:

Good man. I prefer paste too, as it stays where you put it and you can see it!! LOL Also, I always found the liquid was more corrosive, so needed extra care while washing away the flux residue.

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PostSubject: Re: Streicher Hawk Midget Brass Build   Wed 31 Dec 2014, 4:25 pm

Just a quick question if I may please, do you use a soldering iron (the same as you would use for circuit boards etc) or doe you use a flame...

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PostSubject: Re: Streicher Hawk Midget Brass Build   Wed 31 Dec 2014, 4:48 pm

Johnag wrote:
Just a quick question if I may please, do you use a soldering iron (the same as you would use for circuit boards etc) or doe you use a flame...

Many thanks...

Andy...

Andy,

I use a soldering iron, exactly what is used on circuit boards. The two irons I have used on this project I inherited from my great uncle, who was in the business of manufacturing small electrical components. The irons, as well as the solder, were all used in that process.

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PostSubject: Re: Streicher Hawk Midget Brass Build   Wed 31 Dec 2014, 4:51 pm

Hi Art,

Many thanks for the info Sir...

Andy... popcorn
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PostSubject: Re: Streicher Hawk Midget Brass Build   Wed 31 Dec 2014, 6:22 pm

Big improvements in irons over the decades. Originally only ones were thick heavy ones, some electric and some heated over a flame. Then came the "guns" that heated up fast, had small tips and usually a light bulb to show the joint. Finally, the small pen type electrics. Any but the fat ones are good. Most important is to clean the pieces to be soldered well. There must be plenty of Y.T.s on soldering small parts in model areas and slot cars.
Open flames from even small torches aren't really necessary, or very safe. Torches are great for stuff like soldering water pipes, but for tiny work they're just overkill.
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PostSubject: Re: Streicher Hawk Midget Brass Build   Mon 05 Jan 2015, 8:25 am

A small update- not much to really show because I have spent most of my bench time reworking a few bars on the chassis to get it a little more accurate and eliminate some fit issues with the tail tank later.

But I did get some work started on the suspension. The torsion arms from Dirt Modeler that are actually anti-roll bar arms on this build have a bigger hole than I can use, so I drilled it out and then used some tube to produce a smaller hole.

Drilled it out so the tube fits.









Before and after...



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PostSubject: Re: Streicher Hawk Midget Brass Build   Mon 05 Jan 2015, 8:25 am

Started on the front axle too...







Got the shock tower on. I just have a rod in place of the shock for now, but it will be a coil-over later.





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PostSubject: Re: Streicher Hawk Midget Brass Build   Mon 05 Jan 2015, 4:23 pm

Boy, this is going great Art. Looks fabulous. Love the chassis and suspension pieces. Front suspension looks very accurate.

So it looks like you work on a wood board, where you can make this into a template or fixture by attaching props. I have used an old cutting mat for this same purpose, but never a wood base. Looks like a great idea!

For the suspension links, are you using scale rod ends? On some projects, I have used RB Motion rod ends. Great stuff!!
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PostSubject: Re: Streicher Hawk Midget Brass Build   Mon 05 Jan 2015, 5:49 pm

Thanks, Pete!

Yeah, I used an old board and epoxied some styrene "jigs" to it using the die cast to locate the axles and set the ride height. Seems to be working OK so far.

As far as the radius rods and heim joints, what I have now is temporary. I am using some PE rod ends I got from Dirt Modeler, but I am going to get some RB Motion ones, along with some smaller diameter tubing. On this car it's just too visible to compromise and the PE rod ends just aren't as nice. I am also going to get some better bolts, probably from Scale Hardware. I'm just using sewing pins for the mockup.

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PostSubject: Re: Streicher Hawk Midget Brass Build   Wed 14 Jan 2015, 4:43 am

Got more done on the front. It's not quite buttoned up, but it's getting real close.















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PostSubject: Re: Streicher Hawk Midget Brass Build   Wed 14 Jan 2015, 10:18 am

Brilliant, just brilliant!
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PostSubject: Re: Streicher Hawk Midget Brass Build   Wed 14 Jan 2015, 11:13 am

Stunning. Wot more can I say?
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PostSubject: Re: Streicher Hawk Midget Brass Build   Wed 14 Jan 2015, 4:18 pm

Very nice Art. Love the intricate details on the suspension!
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PostSubject: Re: Streicher Hawk Midget Brass Build   Wed 14 Jan 2015, 7:12 pm

Very enjoyable build to watch come together. I am learning a ton watching this. great work.
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PostSubject: Re: Streicher Hawk Midget Brass Build   Wed 14 Jan 2015, 10:43 pm

Looking good Art.

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PostSubject: Re: Streicher Hawk Midget Brass Build   Thu 15 Jan 2015, 4:16 pm

Thank you, guys!
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PostSubject: Re: Streicher Hawk Midget Brass Build   Thu 05 Feb 2015, 5:58 pm

I finished up the axle kingpins on both sides, and fabbed up the drag link and got it all mocked up with the dirt modeler spindles. I also replaced all the 1/16" spuds that the radius rods mounted to with some smaller 3/64" tube to get that a little more in scale. I wasn't happy with the larger tube, but I honestly didn't know that I was going to find any tubing that was smaller. But since I did, I had to make it right. Here are some progress pics.











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PostSubject: Re: Streicher Hawk Midget Brass Build   Thu 05 Feb 2015, 6:32 pm

WOW!!! popcorn
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PostSubject: Re: Streicher Hawk Midget Brass Build   Thu 05 Feb 2015, 7:11 pm

That's looking great !!!!
Nice work !!

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PostSubject: Re: Streicher Hawk Midget Brass Build   Thu 05 Feb 2015, 9:56 pm

I'd forgotten about this one! Looks like another amazing model coming along here. Sumthin' special!
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PostSubject: Re: Streicher Hawk Midget Brass Build   Fri 06 Feb 2015, 11:57 am

Beautiful work sir ............ most impressive
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