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PostSubject: BRM P83 Model Factory Hiro   Sun 27 Oct 2013, 1:13 am

I know I shouldn't be starting another build, but this was calling to me so I started it. During one of my forum crawls, I stumbled onto someone who was selling two of my most favorite F1 cars.  The 67 Ferrari 312 and the Gurney T1G Eagle. Both are MFH kits, so I also bought this kit as a practice run to hone my skills for the other two.



This will be a long OTB, because I want to take my time and not rush things.  (besides the fact that all of my OTB's are long)

The kits are mostly white metal with resin body panels, p/e details, spun aluminum wheels, and other misc small bits.


This is the car I'll be doing.  It was driven in the 1967 Belgian GP by Jackie Stewart.


I have this excellent book for reference pictures.


After drilling out all of the locating holes, I dry assembled the chassis.    And tryed the bodywork.




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PostSubject: Re: BRM P83 Model Factory Hiro   Sun 27 Oct 2013, 3:13 am

That lopoks like a good kit. Nice start Paul.
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PostSubject: Re: BRM P83 Model Factory Hiro   Mon 11 Nov 2013, 10:24 am

I'm gonna watch this one. I've never worked in white metal, and am looking at a Vauxhall in that
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PostSubject: Re: BRM P83 Model Factory Hiro   Mon 11 Nov 2013, 4:15 pm

Great kit!
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PostSubject: Re: BRM P83 Model Factory Hiro   Wed 13 Nov 2013, 4:12 am

So far the white metal has been fairly easy to work with.  I bought a soft brass wire brush and some fine steel wool to polish the pieces with.  The interior of the chassis does not call for any paint.  They just want you to polish it out, which I did.




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PostSubject: Re: BRM P83 Model Factory Hiro   Wed 13 Nov 2013, 5:39 am

001 Looks great Paul.
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PostSubject: Re: BRM P83 Model Factory Hiro   Wed 13 Nov 2013, 11:25 am

Hi Mr 2whl,

May I ask what do you use to stick the metal parts, do you use glue or do you have to solder them...

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PostSubject: Re: BRM P83 Model Factory Hiro   Wed 13 Nov 2013, 11:51 am

Wow!!
That looks cool!
Ought to be a great model !
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PostSubject: Re: BRM P83 Model Factory Hiro   Wed 13 Nov 2013, 12:50 pm

Andy, I haven't used anything yet. But when I do it will be CA or epoxy.

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PostSubject: Re: BRM P83 Model Factory Hiro   Thu 26 Dec 2013, 4:50 pm

Paul, I have been interested in this line of kits for some time. I have always loved the lines of the Gurney-Westlake T1G, and have a great reference book on this car, and the other Eagle racing cars.

I have been on the Model Factory Hiro website, and see that they have two versions available. One is 1/20 scale, and the other a new 1/43 scale. I think that the smaller one may just be too small, with 1/20 allowing for more opportunities for detailing.

Now that you have started on this, can you please give some insights on the quality and fit of the kit. This is especially interesting given the majority of the kit cast in white metal. The purchase of one may be in my future, but they are really expensive. Your comments would be appreciated.
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PostSubject: Re: BRM P83 Model Factory Hiro   Fri 27 Dec 2013, 1:24 am

Pete, I agree that the 1/43 may be too small.  But MFH does give you everything you need to build the kit.  P/E, hoses, ign wires, thin vacuum formed clear parts, etc.  There are people who have gone beyond what's in the kit, but I have seen some awesome builds out of the box.  Here is one on F1 Modeling of the BRM

http://www.f1m.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=17460

The quality of the kit is excellent.  But since it is white metal, all of the holes are just dimples and need to be drilled out by the builder.  I probably drilled 40 holes in the engine alone for fuel injection, plug wires, exhaust and water hoses.  I bought a few new tools just for this type of kit.  First was a suede-shoe brush which is soft brass.  I also found a set of metric drills in .05 mm increments from .030 to 1.00 mm.  Then I went to Home Depot and got some 000 and 0000 steel wool.



Here's a progression of the engine assembly.  





I also got done with drilling the locating holes on the front and rear suspensions.  The front control arms need more polishing.





The wheels are a turned alum outer and a white metal inner.


I'm sorry that there is no more to update, but I am a pathetically slow builder.

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PostSubject: Re: BRM P83 Model Factory Hiro   Fri 27 Dec 2013, 2:34 am

Thanks for the insight on these kits, Paul. I just think I will have to cut loose for one of the Eagles in 1/20. I love working with metal when I scratch build, so this is just perfect. The detail in these kits is pretty impressive.

Thanks for the link on the BRM. I took a look at each page to follow this build. Fantastic work, and I am sure yours will turn out great too!
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PostSubject: Re: BRM P83 Model Factory Hiro   Fri 27 Dec 2013, 12:03 pm

WoW !!
That looks like some nice detail on the parts. And rods on crankshafts inside the block where they will be unseen..?? Impressive !!!
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PostSubject: Re: BRM P83 Model Factory Hiro   Tue 13 May 2014, 3:20 am

Thanks guys..

Since the weather was perfect for painting today, I shot the body parts in British Green.  Tamiya TS-9



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PostSubject: Re: BRM P83 Model Factory Hiro   Tue 13 May 2014, 3:25 am

The ONLY color as far as I am concerned for anything British and Racing !!

So you haven't had any other "perfect day for painting" in the last five months?

  
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PostSubject: Re: BRM P83 Model Factory Hiro   Tue 13 May 2014, 3:33 am

93 degrees and 7% humidity......my garage was a perfect spray booth

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PostSubject: Re: BRM P83 Model Factory Hiro   Tue 13 May 2014, 3:44 am

Beautiful work. The green looks outstanding with all the rivet work.
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PostSubject: Re: BRM P83 Model Factory Hiro   Tue 13 May 2014, 4:54 am

Is that rattle can or did you decant it to an airbrush? Looks great.

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PostSubject: Re: BRM P83 Model Factory Hiro   Tue 13 May 2014, 5:01 am




LOL

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PostSubject: Re: BRM P83 Model Factory Hiro   Tue 13 May 2014, 8:38 am

Do my eyes deceive me.....progress???

Looks good Paul.

Six months for the nose band? LOL

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PostSubject: Re: BRM P83 Model Factory Hiro   Tue 13 May 2014, 12:39 pm

The "Hiro" kits look interesting and the look of the rivets does look excellent painted over white metal. My only complaint about working in metal is the edge of a piece. Any flash that needs removal and where two halves meet and there's a seam line mean more work than with softer plastic.
As to 1:43 compared to larger scales, if one has the money and the space for display, the larger the scale, the more detailed and beautiful a model is. 1:43 does have a much larger line from numerous companies of the rare race cars of the past as well as some passenger cars and trucks, thanx!
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PostSubject: Re: BRM P83 Model Factory Hiro   Wed 14 May 2014, 2:05 pm

Beautiful work so far!
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PostSubject: Re: BRM P83 Model Factory Hiro   Tue 30 Dec 2014, 7:58 am

You've been hiding this one from me, Paul! I'd love to see this one in person.
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PostSubject: Re: BRM P83 Model Factory Hiro   Tue 30 Dec 2014, 8:24 am

This looks great.. Looking forward to the end result
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PostSubject: Re: BRM P83 Model Factory Hiro   Tue 30 Dec 2014, 2:12 pm

Art Laski wrote:
You've been hiding this one from me, Paul! I'd love to see this one in person.

Ha ha.....I brought it to the OC meeting a few months ago. Maybe that's what I'll have to bring to the next TVMC meeting.

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